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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 17:56:25 -0600 (MDT)
From: Modify <modify@attrition.org>
To: Subject: Rebuttal

CPM-

3) I agree with Martin that there is no similarity between the "Jericho" logo he used to run on his old web site Sekurity.org and the Hacking for Girliez logo. However, a few months before the Girliez's rampage began, in a Def Con logo contest, Cancer Omega (COmega in the Vanity Fair story) submitted a logo that was remarkably similar to the Girliez's logo. Martin currently hosts Cancer Omega's web site. Why did Burrough fail to present this far more compelling evidence?

/* Actually, the art work for Def Con was up for a while and lots of
people saw it. What if HFG put up the white hat that you took from Redhat and made white... would that make you guilty? Also, you fail to remember that you too were a suspect my friend :) I just don't think you can base Comega being involved on an image only.. they can be altered...*/

Carolyn replies: Touche, Modify. I have to agree with you. Even that correlation of images is far from being evidence tying Cancer Omega (and by guilt by association, Martin) to the Hacking for Girliez crime spree.

5) Burrough casts doubt on whether Martin ever took part in training seminars for the FBI and other Federal Agencies. It is true and easily provable that Martin participated in several of these seminars, which were run by Fred Villella. However, these seminars also featured Martin's former roommate and well-known hoaxster Se7en, so their technical value is questionable.

/* Actually, I had worked in the same arena as Martin with NDI so I know for a fact that he did teach technical seminars to federal law enforcement as did a lot of NDI associates. As far as technical value of the classes I can point you to several references if need be.*/

Modify

"You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you..."

Carolyn replies: According to many news reports, Se7en claimed Modify was his partner in hacking the web sites of pedophiles, which turned out to be a media hoax.


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