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Happy Hacker Digest Feb. 5, 1997
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Carolyn Meinel. Please don't send us anything you wouldn't email to your
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Happy hacking -- and ne auderis delere orbem rigidum meum!
---------------------------------------------------------

Moderator: just in case you don't read the boiler plate above, let me remind
you. DON'T EMAIL US ANY MESSAGES ABOUT CRIMES YOU MAY HAVE COMMITTED!!@#!!
We are against computer crime. Get it?

From: grayd@eazy.net
Subject: req

Recently I found a site online that acts as an online betting
agency.  The servers are located in Barbados the company is based out
of Las Vegas.  On their site they offer $1000.00 to anyone who can
alter the results or account balances of anyone on their server.
Well I could always use a $1000.00 but I was wondering.

1.) This is an international hack to Barbados what are the laws
concerning this?.

2.) Does their post constitute permission or do I need to contact
them in advance and pre arrange written permission.

3.) If they do give me permission and I don't do any phone phreaking
in the process of hacking them, what other laws will I probably be
breaking?

Anyway just trying to work and stay out of the pen in the process.
P.S. Happy hacker is one of the best things to hit the newbie
community.  Thanks for the taking the risks and putting in the time.
z0r7@planetnetwork.com

(Moderator: If I wanted to both get some sick entertainment and shut down an
Internet gambling outfit -- oh, yes, I think gambling is a nasty ripoff of
the math-challenged -- guess what I would do? I would use a good IP spoofer
to  hack their Web site and put in a message saying "Pleeeze hack our
gambling site! Steal money from us! Screw up our accounts! We'll luv ya for
it. Honest!" Then guys with guns with silencers will pay their visits to the
clueless newbie hackers they catch breaking into their computers. I'll get
away clean. Fortunately, however, I'm not that kind of a woman. So to live
long and prosper DON"T HACK THEIR SITE!!!! In general, I figure that unless
I have a signed, notarized contract to hack a site, I'm not going to risk
the many, MANY kinds of trouble lurking there.)
 
(Moderator: the following post about how to disable Cybersitter is not meant
to encourage you minors on this list to fill your heads with garbage.
Parents who are using this list need to know how easily Cybersitter can be
hacked. Parents, please remember to supervise your children's use of this
list, OK? And don't let them hack any gambling operations.)

From: "Ryan" <c.barrett@virgin.net>
Subject: Cyber Sitter!!!!!!

Here's how to 'hack' Cyber sitter.

In the Windows Directory, edit the field Cy.alt (or something like that) in
Notepad.  This file contains all the violations made.  Only took 5 mins to
work out, and that was only as long as it took me to open all the
Cybersitter files in notepad!  They take kids for fools (So I'm slightly
older than the 15 year old kids whom this would appeal to).

From: Saint Waldo <stwaldo@teleport.com>
Subject: Beginner's Hole...

Hey all,

I'm tired of lurking and want to make sure that the
Spookys out there MAKE a file on me if they don't
already have one.

Here is something to think about the next time you
see an office full of Win95 crap boxes running Word.
In the last version I played with (6.0), it was
possible to sneak into any users "personal Documents"
folder through the file open box.  I tried this on
a remote drive whose personal docs folder was not shared.

For a little background,  a guy in our office was
wasting a lot of time and office resources on his
own "consulting work".  We knew he was using the
office software for his own business.  He was tying
up phone lines, distracting people with BS about
vapor-tech, and basically a pain.  My manager and I
wanted to get the poop on what he was doing, and get
some proof that he was improperly using company time
and resources.  His machine was on and logged into
the network, and the kicker was that he was USING it
while we did this hack.

He wasn't using word.  We started up his copy of word, and hit
File: Open.  Popped up to the network level, and hit his
machine.  We noticed that, even though normal surfing
(i.e. File manager) would NOT show us the personal
docs folder, his word over the network would.  We got
a  good look at everything, and saved copies on our
machine (even the passworded ones were copyable).
The poop we needed was there, and we filed it away for
future use.

I know it's a "lame" hack, but it was fun cuz we were
looking at things this guy KNEW he didn't want seen,
KNEW was incriminating, and KNEW would get him in trub.
For a paranoiac, his knowledge of how to keep things a
secret sucked.
It also might lead you to some other ways that the
Godzilla of OS's fails in it's claim of security, and
take steps to make sure you can plug up the holes.

-----------------------------------------------------
The Above mini-Hack should be tested while playing
Sonic Youth's "Death Valley 69" at MaxVol.
Saint Waldo I.P./E.
"Callidus ad Infinitum, Magister ad Nihil."

(Moderator's note: my Latin quote is kewler than your Latin quote. "Ne
auderis delere orbem rigidum meum.")

From: Marco Pappalardo <bethesda@netropolis.be>
Subject: answers

here are answers to some of the latest posts :

to friend@home.com (if that is his address) :
congratulations for *FINALLY* discovering RFC's and welcome to the world
of -real- hacking (read 'learning as much as possible')

to Enrique F Azuara who wants to know what log files to erase,
wmtp, umtp and lastlog would be a good start...

(Moderator's note: erasing these files is destroying evidence, in itself a
crime. Trust me, erasing or altering these is not enough to keep you from
getting caught.)

From: Marco Pappalardo <bethesda@netropolis.be>
Subject: answers (continued)

to intervention@imt.net :
they look like *nix systems (Unix, Linux, BSD,...) No wonder default
passwords don't work, no one uses them anymore. If I were you I'd try
port 25 for remote sendmail exploits, getting an account if it's your
university for local exploits, checking directories that are being
exported if they have NFS/NIS,...

to burncy@mail1.nai.net :
no no no finger doesn't bring you up the user's password (that'd be too
good to be true...) It just gives you info about that user, thus giving
you clues about what his password MIGHT be. Sorry you'll have to try
harder...

and finally to you Carolyn :
the exploits idea is good but you may have noticed there's no actual
code in the posts. I don't care I get them through Bugtraq just like you
but I doubt the newbies that go around asking how to hack will figure
out how to code an exploit from the info you give... :-)

One last thought : I used to think of myself as a newbie but after
months of intensive reading and collecting exploits all over the net I
realized that when true hackers talk about stuff I actually understand
what they're talking about and I could answer most of the questions in
Happy Hacker...Could it be ...? YES ! I have finally evolved from the
status of newbie hacker wannabe to intermediate hacker ! Reading books
does pay after all !!! :-)
P.S.: I know nobody cares but I just felt like letting everyone know ...

 bethesda

From: root <abszero@epix.net>
Subject: Re: Happy Hacker Digest Feb. 2-4, 1997

> If you load /etc/services into your favorite text editor or just cat it
> through 'more', you'll see a list of every port a Unix can understand,
> what it does, the protocol layer it monitors, and maybe some comments.
> What port 15 does is it responds with network statistics, like the load
> the processor of the system is running, what method is being used to
> access that process (in your example, a direct telnet session), kilobytes
> of memory that process is addressing, and suchlike.
>
> (Moderator: what he means by "cat it through 'more' is to give the command:
> ->more /etc/services/
> On some Unix systems you can also give the command:
> ->less /etc/services
> This is actually an obscure programmers' joke. See if you can find the
> difference in the two commands.)

actually, by "cat it through more" he meant "cat /etc/services | more".  But
it won't make a difference, except in helping you to understand Unix.  Also,
I have never seen less (much better than more, but not as good as most <G>)
on anything but a Linux box.

        <-> <-> <-> <-> <->

>
> FROM: "Enrique F. Azuara" <eazuara@scanda.com.mx>
> Subject: what to delete after a hack?????
>
> howdy:
> I was wondering what logs or files should be modified in a Unix system after
> a hack. I want to start my first hack but I need to know what not to do.
>
> BTW does anyone know if hacking is illegal in Mexico??, are here any groups,
> clubs, or something to share a drink or two?
>
> see ya
> henry jr.
>
> (Moderator: Above all, don't erase the system files. Elite hackers do no
> harm. Period!
(snip)

 In general, you should also *edit* the logfiles, but *D*O*N*'*T* completely
remove them.  You can find the names of the system logfiles on many Unixes
by viewing /etc/syslog.conf.  The simplest way to do this is to record the
time you start hacking their system, since loglines are always dated and
timed.
Note that if their are entries like a.b <TABS> @hostname, and you cannot
hack into @hostname, it is likely best to not modify any of the logs, unless
their is something auth., or security., or >.notice.  (Read man syslog if you
didn't understand that)

--- James Mastros

(Moderator: many logging programs save your log file in memory and then
write it to disk after you log off of the system. So you're still in
trouble. Hint: *part* of the solution is to figure out how to log on in such
a way that there will be no logging at all of your visit. Galf knows how to
do that. But it's against the law. One of these days the FBI file on galf
will get big enough for a bust. Think about it, galf, how come we knew so
much about your hack even though you logged on to the Happy Hacker majordomo
server box in such a way that there was no shell logging? )

From: root <abszero@epix.net>
Subject: Re: Happy Hacker Digest Feb. 2-4, 1997 (continued)

> From: Kenn Evitt <cpe2@gte.net>
> Subject: linux slackware
>
> I understood how to use minicom with the pppd daemon to open a PPP
> connection, but how can i do this and connect to a specific DNS host?
>

In your /etc/resolv.conf, add "nameserver nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn".  If you don't
already have a /etc/resolv.conf, you should also have a "domain your.isp."
(note the trailing dot) in the file.

> From: "J Leane" <commando@hartingdale.com.au>
>
> Hi IM new to happy hacker...
> Any ideas on hacking bbs's??
>

Yeha, don't.  Generally, if their is anything worth getting at a BBS, the
best way to get to it is to UPLOAD good stuff.  If you have warez to upload,
send a e-mail with an attachment to the SysOp, do not upload it to a public
forum, which can result in legal damage to the SysOp of the BBS in question.

 --- James Mastros
 
          <-> <-> <-> <->
 
> From: burncy@mail1.nai.net (Burn-Cycle)
> Subject: Re: Welcome to Happy Hacker
>
> I use windows 95 and I use a really good telnet program...I think. Only
> because I've read thing that hackers have written and they have said that
> they can't only do certain stuff with a shell account. Well, I can do
> everything they can do with my telnet program..........i think. Only things
> that I've tried, have all worked for me. Anyway, I don't get something. I
> know that when you finger someone you get the location of their password
> file right?
>
> ya know it looks something like this..
>
> etc\usr\bin

That looks like it should be /etc/usr/bin.  Note that Unix uses slashes,
                             ^   ^   ^
rather than back-slashes like DOS or colons like MacOS (yeech!).  Also,
under every Unix I have ever seen, the password file is /etc/passwd or
/etc/shadow-password.

  --- James Mastros

From: Tony Riggs <triggs@computize.com>
Subject: NEW

Hey folks,

New guy here just wondering does anyone know how to get around the stupid
password on the screen saver for WIN 95 WITHOUT hitting CTRL + ALT + DEL??

Thanks
Tony

(Moderator: think boot disk. If that doesn't work, power down, restart, hit
escape and make sure the bios is set to boot from a: drive. Folks, that
Win95 password is a fragile way to save you from someone with physical
access to your box!)

From: Frankie Hayes <strider@unix.aardvarkol.com>
Subject: BBSes

Ok...
 Since this is my 1st post, I'd like to say, "Hey!" to everyone out there.
Now, the main question i have is does anyone have ANY tips on hacking
WildCat!, TeleGuard, or Renegade BBSes? I know for a fact that Renegade
BBSes are relatively simple, but tips always help. ;)
 The following is a tip for anyone else interested in hacking BBSes; and
from experience i KNOW this helps...
    1) First, get a copy (Shareware -or- Registered version) and set
 it up on your computer.
    2)  Next, make sure that it's installed properly, and logon to it
 locally. (Ya'll should know what that means)
    3)  After your logged on, DON'T use SYSOPs or whatever YOUR
        "SuperUser" account is, and try hacking it and dropping to DOS.
This is a VERY good way to practice hacking into a board...BUT DO NOT
TRY HACKING YOUR BOARD WITH VIRII, ANSI-BOMBS, etc. So don't say i didn't
warn ya!!!!  I'd appreciate any responses/flaming of what I've stated
above. Until then...later......  ;)

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From: jon@balder.us.dell.com
This letter was forwarded Tue 3:52pm, 4 Feb 1997 EST by SUNRUNNER@TAMPA:
This letter was forwarded Tue 3:42pm, 4 Feb 1997 EST by MATCHMAKER:
>From comp.risks; seems fitting re the sub-discussion about ActiveX security
at the last JUG meeting.

Date: 1 Feb 1997 05:12:02 GMT
From: weberwu@tfh-berlin.de (Debora Weber-Wulff)
Subject: Electronic Funds Transfer without stealing PIN/TAN

The Berlin newspaper "Tagespiegel" reports on 29 Jan 97 about a television show
broadcast the previous evening on which hackers from the Chaos Computer Club
demonstrated how to electronically transfer funds without needing a PIN
(Personal Identification Number) or TAN (Transaction Number).

Apparently it suffices for the victim to visit a site which downloads an ActiveX
application, which automatically starts and checks to see if Quicken, a popular
financial software package that also offers electronic funds transfer, is on the
machine.  If so, Quicken is given a transfer order which is saved by Quicken in
its pile of pending transfer orders.  The next time the victim sends off the
pending transfer orders to the bank (and enters in a valid PIN and TAN for
that!)  all the orders (= 1 transaction) are executed -> money is transferred
without the victim noticing!

The newspaper quotes various officials at Microsoft et al expressing
disbelief/outrage/"we're working on it".  We discussed this briefly in class
looking for a way to avoid the problem.  Demanding a TAN for each transfer is
not a solution, for one, the banks only send you 50 at a time, and many small
companies pay their bills in bunches.  Having to enter a TAN for each
transaction would be quite time-consuming.  Our only solution would be to forbid
browsers from executing any ActiveX component without express authorization, but
that rather circumvents part of what ActiveX is intended for.

A small consolation:  the transfer is trackable, that is, it can be determined
at the bank to which account the money went.  Some banks even include this
information on the statement, but who checks every entry on their statements...

Debora Weber-Wulff, Technische Fachhochschule Berlin, Luxemburger Str.  10,
13353 Berlin GERMANY weberwu@tfh-berlin.de <http://www.tfh-berlin.de/~weberwu/>

SAN MATEO, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 4, 1997--Pretty Good Privacy,
Inc. (http://www.pgp.com), the world leader in digital-privacy software
for individuals and businesses, today announced the availability of
PGPmail 4.5, an upgraded version of the world's most popular
encryption software for sending private encrypted email messages
and files over the Internet and corporate intranets.
Carolyn Meinel
M/B Research -- The Technology Brokers
 

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